Virtual Bands

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  • #24921
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
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    OK. From what I can see, both here and on the main site (particularly the response to and quality of the Shadowhands/Ceasar Salad projects), It would appear that a great many (if not all) of us are musicians, singers, songwriters – pro/semi-pro/bedroom etc., and I suspect at least some have some kind of recording/mix/remix facility on their machines.

    I’d like to know who plays what, and if anyone’s into doing some virtual band type mixes/remixes – where we post our own loops/samples/capellas etc and then produce tracks from them.

    Just for fun. Don’t know about you, but the chances of me finding compatible musicians locally and getting back out playing live are pretty slim, and while playing with CDs is sometimes fun, it’s also quite lonely. It occcurred to me that this might be a way of doing something with like-minded musicians, irrespective of the distance and time zones between us.

    So…if the idea appeals, get posting your details, and if there’s enough interest we can maybe get something moving.

    By the way, I’m Pete, and I’m a drummer, now 53, playing since learning the rudiments in a pipe band at age 12, love all kinds of music…nice to meet you, too.

    #28102
    Avatar of steve8282steve8282
    Participant

    I am completely without talent when it comes to music which is why I love it so much , it’s magic, I would love to hear some of the Bruce influenced creations of the folks on this site.

    #28103
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
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    That could well be one of the strengths of a virtual band project, allowing those of us without finely-honed musical skills to participate.

    For those of you who never tried this, a sample is a sound recording, that can be of any length and created in any way. At its most basic, it can be something as simple as a handclap or a finger pop, or, at the other end of the scale, it can be a 16 bar, multitracked stereo guitar solo in B minor by Steve Vai. It doesn’t matter which. Each can be considered a building block that can be used to create a new piece of music. The fact that it’s not being created in real-time is irrelevant.

    Each of those recordings can be imported into a sequencing program, and be modified to suit the particular piece under construction. We can change the pitch, tempo, duration, reverse it, add effects, layer different versions together to build chords or arpeggios, build it into another sequence using sections from other samples etc…

    So even if you can’t play much of anything, even a one bar sax trill, or a two bar guitar strum of D5 could be a valuable addition to a project.

    For those of you interested to have a look at this, try Sony’s ACID express – it’s free, and they give you sample projects to play with.

    http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/downlo … sp?DID=551

    So, a complete lack of musical ability, tone-deafness, failing bodily parts, shyness or self-deprecation will not be considered valid excuses for non-participation. You either wanna or you don’t.

    #28104
    Avatar of Erin G.Erin G.
    Participant

    This is such a fantastic idea! I’m in–even with failing body parts, I can still peck out chopsticks. =)

    (Oh, and I’m Erin, 28, piano, vocals and sometimes guitar. Nice to meet you too!)

    #28105
    Avatar of PianoManKDPianoManKD
    Participant

    Hey I’m in….I’m able to play:

    Piano
    Keyboards
    Drums
    Guitar
    Vocals
    Saxophone
    Violin
    Bass

    Let me know the status!

    Kyle

    #28106
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
    Participant

    Erin and Kyle, thanks for your enthusiasm – looks like we’ve got enough to get started. Give me a couple days to work out the logistics for file storage/sharing, and some basic control systems. Meantime have a think about putting together some basic sample packs.

    For me, the best part about being a musician is doing it with other people that you like and admire. The icing on the cake is doing on stage it in front of people and feeling their reaction.

    Even if I can’t get out and do it on stage at the moment, being able to work with other like-minded people, even if they’re on different continents, has to be the next best thing.

    I’m really looking forward to getting started. This is a great way of using the capabilities of the internet.

    There’s room enough for everyone on this thing, so don’t be shy folks. If you’re interested, come say hello. Talent is useful, but not strictly necessary in this environment. If you can hold it together long enough to record your best (or only) 2 bar lick, even if it takes 100 attempts to get it right, that’s great. After all, who’s going to know (or care!) The important thing is that we’re doing it together

    #28107
    Avatar of David DayDavid Day
    Participant

    I can play a mean air guitar! 😆

    I’ll be in, depending on technology that is needed. Count me in for guitar: 6 string & 12 string acoustic.

    Sounds like to me you need a Road Scholar involved in this project! 😆

    I got a name for us! The bruuuce.com Project! ❗ 😆

    What do you think?

    David Day
    Lake Lanier, GA

    #28108
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
    Participant

    Glad to see David is joining us – although it’s maybe a bit soon to be suggesting names. It’s also a bit dangerous! I’ve seen more than a few bands split over disagreements about the name, some before they managed a single gig, and others who seemed to change their name on a weekly basis!

    As an example, here’s several that never made the cut in some of the bands I worked with (and what we ended up with):

      Elliot Ness and the Plain-Clothes Policemen(Shady Grove)
      Narcissus le Strange and the Cow Cow Vinegaroos(Sierra Bonde)
      The Rolling Suppolas(Monolug)

    I always had a soft spot for Narcissus le Strange….

    It might make a good competition for Bruuuce.com, though…

    What’s happening:

    I’ve got a couple of gigs of webspace I can devote to this. Over the next few days, I’ll put up a mini-site for the project, with areas that you can up/download to/from. Hopefully we can expand on this as we go and include help and tutorials for those of us new to this field, as well as works in progress. I’m open to suggestions on how we structure it.

    I’d like to maintain this forum thread as a meeting place, so everyone can see easily what’s going on, unless Si has any objections?

    Watch this thread over the next few days for more information.

    #28109
    Avatar of Si TwiningSi Twining
    Keymaster

    No objections – in fact I have a great vocal if you wish to build on it. It’s a Bruce song, though, so you may find it restricting, or you may want to build on it, or add to it! Let me know.

    (It’s a half-completed “Show Goes On”, sung acapella by Kathryn Holtkamp).

    Or, just start your own tune!

    #28110
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
    Participant

    re Kathryn’s acapella – Thhe show goes on

    I think we’d definitely be interested in this, Si. As you probably know, one of the rarest treasures when you’re building tracks purely from samples is getting your hands on a good acapella (pure, unaccompanied vocal track). The fact that it’s such a well known Bruce song is not a problem. I had imagined that it might be some time before an opportunity like this came up, so if Kathryn is willing to let us use it, that’s fantastic..

    (In the unlikely event that anyone has not yet heard Kathryn’s beautiful singing and playing, go immedately to http://www.shadowhands.com and download the CD. It’s a superb piece of work, free, and that’s the best bargain you’re gonna get!)

    Of course the main thrust of the virtual band is to see what new, original music we can create, but I for one would love to build an accompaniment to that beautiful voice, singing a great song.

    #28111
    Avatar of Si TwiningSi Twining
    Keymaster

    This may be what you’re looking for then – she only managed to complete two verses before she got too busy.

    There are two tracks that you can have – one is just Kathryn (with her own harmonies) and the other is with J.V.Collier having recorded on top of that.

    #28112
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
    Participant

    Re: acapellas

    Wow! Yes, please! (Gimme Gimme Gimme….)

    Either mail them to me, or I’ll send you the ftp details over the next few days- I’m dying to hear this.

    #28113
    Avatar of rabjohnsrabjohns
    Participant

    Virtual Bands Website delay

    Hi All

    Sorry about the delay. Problem is it’s mid March, which is silly season in the UK. (You probably have something similar in your own country).

    As they approach the end of the financial year, large corporations and Local Government departments suddenly realise they are underspent on budget and start panic-ing, spawning a massive purchase-fest throughout the country. In some ways that’s great, but it generates a lot of extra work, and keeping my existing customers serviced and trying to court some new ones has taken up all my time.

    So again apologies, I’ve got the basics of it built – hopefully I’ll get some time tomorrow and get things moving.

    #28114
    Avatar of David DayDavid Day
    Participant

    I thought of another name for us!

    Besides The Bruuuce.com Project, what about The Two Hand Independence Band? 😆

    David Day
    Lake Lanier, GA

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