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March 15, 2007 at 5:19 pm #24938
trent
ParticipantBruce did a paid gig recently at the Electronic House Expo. It looks like his style and attitude regarding the performance rubbed many people there the wrong way.
“In 90 minutes, Bruce Hornsby confirmed every stereotype about musicians: persnickety, arrogant and very, very talented.”
March 15, 2007 at 6:07 pm #28235steve8282
ParticipantBig Head Bruce is a monster?
March 15, 2007 at 7:40 pm #28236DavidR
ParticipantTo be fair, the audience was requesting hits and Dead tunes. Bruce has been very vocal that he’s not a jukebox and requesting Dead tunes at a Bruce show is like requesting “Free Bird” anywhere else.
I think it’s a case of the audience and reviewer not knowing what Bruce is up to since 1990, not liking what he does now, and harping on the only thing they can grasp, which is his snarky sense of humour. That said, Bruce has veered close to Keith Jarrett territory over the past few years (and not playing-wise), which he’d do well to avoid, honestly.
David
March 15, 2007 at 9:44 pm #28237Victor
ParticipantHahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Quote:For instance, he chided the audience for requesting him to play more Grateful Dead songs and his “hit songs,” advising them to “buy the album” or “go see a cover band.” Later, he ranted about the Grammy Awards.I love it! I ranted about the Grammy Awards right here on these boards myself. You’ve got to love Bruce’s cantankerousness…
These stuffed-shirt types at these industry shows are like frat boys on spring break. They think they own everybody on the beach — “EHX – The Electronic House Expo” — Too Cool for School! You almost have to use your “Movie Trailer Guy” voice when you say it. A bunch of door-to-door salesmen. Talk about pompous.
I don’t blame Bruce a bit for getting fed-up with these types now and again. At least they acknowledged he’s “very, very talented.”
Vic
March 15, 2007 at 9:52 pm #28238steve8282
ParticipantOn the other hand if Bruce does not like this sort of response from the crowd he may want to stop taking this type of Gig. It is not as though you cannot see this type of response coming at this type of show.
March 15, 2007 at 10:40 pm #28239Allisa
ParticipantOk, Steve, gotta ask: what’s the ‘glowy’ thing you’re holding in your pic?
March 15, 2007 at 10:53 pm #28240trent
Participantyeah it looks like some kind of atomic Christmas ornament……
March 15, 2007 at 11:08 pm #28241steve8282
ParticipantI was on the Buzz lightyear ride at tomorowland WDW. My wife and son jumped in 1 Car and I jumped in the other and this is the result. I do not keep guns in my home for many reasons, but mostly because the look on my face scares me.
March 16, 2007 at 8:59 am #28242zncstr
ParticipantDavidR wrote:To be fair, the audience was requesting hits and Dead tunes. Bruce has been very vocal that he’s not a jukebox and requesting Dead tunes at a Bruce show is like requesting “Free Bird” anywhere else.I think it’s a case of the audience and reviewer not knowing what Bruce is up to since 1990, not liking what he does now, and harping on the only thing they can grasp, which is his snarky sense of humour. That said, Bruce has veered close to Keith Jarrett territory over the past few years (and not playing-wise), which he’d do well to avoid, honestly.
David
but yet when a hardcore fan shouts out “Freebird” and he abides, it’s OK? 🙄
See the New Concerts (from the Soundboard thread) I mean no disrespect to Miss VA Former but just I am just pointing out an inconsistency here for arguments sakeI am sure he knows that once that train left the station there was no turning back. He called it a curse some time ago as well, but there is no need to alienate those fans either.
Quote:Posted: Mar 11, 2007 15:08 Post subject:
FYI– on the 8/13/06 Charlotte show, at the very beginning when Bruce is going over some request notes, I’M the Teresa that wants to dance on stageAlso, later on, I’m the one who yells out “The Way It Is” and “Freebird”, which resulted in Bruce playing several lines of “TWIS” to the tune of “Freebird”.
March 16, 2007 at 12:18 pm #28243steve8282
ParticipantI feel like I am bashing Bruce a lot on this but I think it appears that he is missing a boat her.
1. If this sort of response is a problem for him I doubt that he is so cash strapped that he needs to take ths sort of Gig.
2. Having taken the Gig, he should ba able to recognise that the crowd will consist mostly of people who are there for something else and un familiar with his work.
3. Given that the crowd would be mostly buissnes owners, if he refused to do Dead tunes in favour of something that he gets paid for the crowd would probably get behind him.
4. The folks who are ther calling out for something that theh know are trying to meet him half way he could probably win them over by sStarting with a request and then bending it into something that he wants to play.
5. The paralell to Keith Jarret has occured to me as well and disturbs me on a few levels, one I like Bruce’s music a lot more than Jarrets and two Bruce does not seem to be an ass, regardles of talent every time I hear Jarret speak I a filled wit hthe urge to punch him this is never the case with Bruce.
March 29, 2007 at 1:57 am #28244treah
ParticipantI’ve been pondering this thread for a while. Guess this can be filed under: “for what it’s worth”-with apologies to Buffalo Springfield.
Last year I was given the opportunity to attend a corporate show featuring Bruce and the Noise Makers. The show was fantastic!
My observation about the corporate show I attended:
Yes, Bruce exhibited some acerbic wit by poking fun at the pretentious name of the event. However, I didn’t see this as demeaning; I just thought he was trying to grab the attention or make a connection with the audience. The majority of the crowd that evening seemed more interested in “networking” and talking on their cell phones than enjoying the music.Might Bruce’s comments about the “Go Canes” note he received at the recent corporate show have been a simple attempt to grab the audience’s attention too?
In the “reader comments” section of the corporate show article, some audience members wrote that they walked out during the show. They were surprised when Bruce commented about their behavior. Later in their remarks, they say they knew Bruce would say something if they made an exit. Why were they upset if they knew this was going to happen?
Perhaps the event was just a case of people “expecting one thing and getting another,” as some other concert-goers wrote.
A quote that keeps appearing is: “He doesn’t have to do this kind of event.” Does anyone know if this statement is actually true? Maybe there is a contractual or other obligation of which we are unaware.
Am I being over-sensitive about this topic? Perhaps, but it seems to me that the folks who attended the show and then commented about it are acting in a slightly unreasonable way. They didn’t get the “just-like-the-record” concert they expected and were deeply disappointed. I can empathize with them, but I also feel they should have been a bit more open-minded. Easier said than done.
Jackie
March 29, 2007 at 10:44 am #28245steve8282
Participanttreah wrote:In the “reader comments”A quote that keeps appearing is: “He doesn’t have to do this kind of event.” Does anyone know if this statement is actually true? Maybe there is a contractual or other obligation of which we are unaware.
Jackie
I do not want to bash him to hard, or at all for that matter. I think that he must be OK in the money department at this pointy in his career and that if doing this sort of gig gets on his nerves he should not do it, be happy, come back to Toronto, the lat time he was here he sold out in under 1/2 hour and there was no question everybody was only there to see him.
the change in record company was a good idea, if these sorts of thing happen a change in management might also be a good idea.
All comments are for what it is worth also.
March 29, 2007 at 2:36 pm #28246wasabedan
ParticipantAs the comments have run the gamut I’d like to give my view on this without addressing (attacking?) any one in particular.
I really think we should be giving Bruce the benefit of the doubt here. Those of us who follow him know he makes many comments “tongue in cheek” to the audience and is not serious about it. Those in the audience shouldn’t be so thin skinned that they can’t take a ribbing once in awhile (but I guess that is what our society has wrought – we all need to be soooo sensitive about everyone else – but that’s another rant).
Secondly it’s his concert let Bruce set the rules at the start. If he isn’t looking for requests, he’ll let everyone know so people shouldn’t be constantly YELLING out the same song over and over. Believe me I’ve been there and it is disconcerting to say the least to listen to them all concert long. WE all know the routine and there is a better way to requests songs. WRITE IT ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND BRING IT TO THE STAGE. Very simple.
I’ll admit though as of late he has been a bit more testy with audience interuptus and makes a point of mentioning it.(refering to both concerts in NY last year). I think Bruce is “getting more in touch” with his talent as a musician and wants to be taken seriously. One would never think of going to a Keith Jarrett concert and coughing let alone yelling out a song to be played without being hung from the rafters. (just mentioning as a response as Bruce considers Keith as one of those who inspires him and I have heard similarities in their style at times).
Maybe it’s all about respect. No I take that back IT IS about respect. I enjoy the party atmosphere as much as the next one – but the primary reason I took to Bruce and continue to look forward each and every year to seeing him is his playing ability, vocals, and his lyrics. At a time when so much nonsense passes for music (see rap, hip hop, punk, various lip-syncing) it’s refreshing and reassuring to hear and see someone with real talent, and be their own person and play what inspires them and not pandering to the market demands.
When I go to a concert my attitude is that I want to hear Bruce and what he has selected. Maybe I’m the minority – and more passive in my approach. And while I do wish that he plays certain songs my ticket does not give me unlimited latitude to act in certain ways and make flagrant demands during the show. My ticket entitles me to listen to his performance and show appreciation or not at the end of each song and at the end of the concert.
Those of you who think you are entitled to much more during a concert my suggestion is that you see the posting subject in the forum addressing getting a private show together. -
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