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March 5, 2007 at 12:56 am #24924
David Day
ParticipantI’ve been saving this topic for a while waiting on the right time, but based on your posts on “Two Hand Independence”, “Has Bruce Peaked?”, “More Thoughts From A Road Scholar”, and now “Virtual Bands”, it’s probably a good time to bring this one up.
Is Bruce The “Musician’s Musician”?
: Have you ever thought about that?
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Musicians are very picky, particular and sometimes peculiar about the music they listen too. They know crab (excuse my French) when they hear it because they (you) are sophisticated in their (your) musical taste.
We now have many musicians on this forum. I’ve gleaned a lot from you guys, enjoy your camaraderie and respect what you have to say.
What do you think? Do we like Bruce because he is the “musicians musician”?:
Am I off my rocker or do you feel the same way?
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David Day
Lake Lanier, GAMarch 5, 2007 at 6:01 pm #28117steve8282
ParticipantThings I have observed over time:
1. At Bruce shows you see many piano players working things out in the air in front of them as Bruce plays(This is different that folks getting into the show and playing air piano).
2. A friend who has a PHD in performed music will not teach Bruce to students because she feel she cannot do the material justice.
3. The number and quality of musicians who request Bruce to play with them or cover his songs
4. The fact that todays pop culture don’t seem to know what to make of Bruce.
All of these things do point to Burce being the musicians muscician but the bigger question is being the musicians musicians a good thin for Bruce?
March 5, 2007 at 7:40 pm #28118the professor
ParticipantYour close… actually, Bruce is the magicians musician. This is due mainly because of the magical moments Bruce creates on stage. Word on the street is that Bruce will be working with David Copperfield for a summer tour… stay tuned… details are slowly coming in… 😉
March 5, 2007 at 11:59 pm #28119David Day
ParticipantSome great thoughts guys! Keep them coming! ❗
Why is it you like Bruce’s music so much? Does Bruce play in sharps & flats vs majors? Does Bruce change keys in the middle of a song vs 3 or 4 chord stuff? Does Bruce tend to change his tempos? Is it the two hand independence thing? Is it the difficulty of his music? Be specific!
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAMarch 7, 2007 at 10:42 pm #28120rabjohns
ParticipantMusician’s Musicians
The majority of albums I buy are live concerts, largely because I know from experience that you can manufacture virtually anything in the studio these days (Of course if that’s true, then why does the industry continue to insult our intelligence with such incredible crab). Live work is the only way of evaluating a player’s performance.
Bruce is a superb technical player, brilliant improviser and fantastic composer. The live work showcases his innovative flair – every performance is different (why else would we all have 26 different versions of the same song, love them all for their differences, and talk about them in terms of concert dates?). Most other musicians have maybe one or two published live performances.
For me, a musician’s musician is someone that you respect for their ability and talent, but just as importantly for their integrity and humanity – that’s why so many other superb musicians like Clapton, Elton John, Bonnie, Chaka Khan, Ricky, Ornette Coleman, Bela, (fill in the rest of the list yourself, you know the names as well as I do) are so keen to play with him, or have him play with them.
“Bruce?, yeah he’s this cool guy who play great keyboards – I’ll introduce you, I’m sure you’d get along…”
March 7, 2007 at 10:56 pm #28121David Day
ParticipantRe: Musician’s Musicians
rabjohns wrote:Bruce is a superb technical player, brilliant improviser and fantastic composer. The live work showcases his innovative flair – every performance is different (why else would we all have 26 different versions of the same song, love them all for their differences, and talk about them in terms of concert dates?). Most other musicians have maybe one or two published live performances.You said that well! I’ve been to 51 shows and they all have been different. I also love “Here Comes the Noise Makers” record! Talk about something that gets me fired up!
Bruce is great in concert! I’m a telling ya! I look forward to a few this summer!
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAMarch 9, 2007 at 12:51 am #28122treah
ParticipantDavid Day wrote:Why is it you like Bruce’s music so much? Does Bruce play in sharps & flats vs majors? Does Bruce change keys in the middle of a song vs 3 or 4 chord stuff? Does Bruce tend to change his tempos? Is it the two hand independence thing? Is it the difficulty of his music? Be specific!My answer is, “All of the above.” Bruce constantly amazes me with the things he does musically.
Another reason I like Bruce’s music is harder to define. Maybe it has to do with the way he voices chords or his singing style. I only know when I unexpectedly hear one of Bruce’s songs, my spirit gets lighter and the day instantly gets better. Not a very technical answer, I know, but that is as specific as I can get.
Jackie
March 9, 2007 at 1:51 am #28123David Day
Participanttreah wrote:My answer is, “All of the above.” Bruce constantly amazes me with the things he does musically.Another reason I like Bruce’s music is harder to define. Maybe it has to do with the way he voices chords or his singing style. I only know when I unexpectedly hear one of Bruce’s songs, my spirit gets lighter and the day instantly gets better. Not a very technical answer, I know, but that is as specific as I can get.
I think I can answer that! Bruce’s music is “soul music”. It’s feeds the soul. It’s “soul food”. It refreshes the soul!
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAMarch 10, 2007 at 9:44 am #28124zncstr
ParticipantGarcia, metheny, fleck…all masters of their instruments…just like Bruce. These cats wouldn’t ask Bruce to play with them or agree to play with him if he wasn’t a musicians musician
other musician musicians
Steve Howe, Joe Jackson,Derek TrucksMarch 10, 2007 at 10:33 pm #28125David Day
Participantzncstr wrote:Garcia, metheny, fleck…all masters of their instruments…just like Bruce. These cats wouldn’t ask Bruce to play with them or agree to play with him if he wasn’t a musicians musicianWhat a great point!
Don’t forget Robbie Robertson, Dave Mathews, Roger Waters, Don Henley,
B.B.King, Ricky Skaggs, Branford Marsalis to name a few more.Anybody else?
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAPS Would love to get Bruce and Steve Howe together!! (In and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky they stand there!) 😆
March 11, 2007 at 3:05 am #28126steve8282
ParticipantGot to throw in Richard Thompson, very much like Bruce except for the playing guitar British and Muslim.
Also Jaco Pastorius except for the bass , nuts and dead.
April 14, 2007 at 11:53 pm #28127David Day
ParticipantI can’t help but bring this up again!
What do you think now? Is Bruce the musician’s musician?
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I can’t believe the creativity in Caesar Salad! ❗
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAApril 15, 2007 at 10:22 pm #28128rdiakun
ParticipantI think what turns me on about his music mostly is that he transcends the “performing a song” thing and moves on to that level where he “saying something” with his music. There are some public speakers who you can hear and whatever it is that they’re saying doesn’t really sink in…. and there are some who can stir your mind and soul. It’s hard to quantify it, but I fell like Mr. Hornsby just has that “it” with his expression of his musical ideas and dreams. How many performers can you see in a live performance where they are doing an improv section and people are sitting there kinda saying to themselves, “go, man, go!”? I find myself doing that at Bruce shows, and after he’s done and goes back into the “song proper”, I feel an exhilirating rush that can only be summed with with the word, “yeah!” How’s that for articulating that which can’t really be articulated with words?
Rich
April 15, 2007 at 11:45 pm #28129treah
Participantrdiakun wrote:How’s that for articulating that which can’t really be articulated with words?The answer to your question: “Well said!”
Jackie
April 16, 2007 at 2:02 pm #28130Speedsk8er
ParticipantDavid Day wrote:PS Would love to get Bruce and Steve Howe together!! (In and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky they stand there!) 😆I’ve sometimes wondered what kind of influence Yes has had on Bruce’s music. I imagine that Rick Wakeman must have some kind of an influence. Steve has been one of my favorite players for a long time.
Another combo I’d love to see is Bruce and Donald Fagan (or Becker/Fagan/Steely Dan/Bruce) together.
April 16, 2007 at 2:37 pm #28131steve8282
ParticipantAfter listening to one of the Concerts with Bela Fleck, i would love to hear Bruce and Leo Kottke.
April 18, 2007 at 2:59 am #28132rdiakun
ParticipantThere’s another, very important, reason why musicians like Bruce’s music. He has made it cool to engage in what many music critics have derisively called “pointless noodling.” We all like to do it, and he does it better than the rest of us.
Rich
April 19, 2007 at 12:39 am #28133David Day
ParticipantSpeedsk8er wrote:Another combo I’d love to see is Bruce and Donald Fagan (or Becker/Fagan/Steely Dan/Bruce) together.You just opened a huge “can of worms”! ❗ Much to say about this!
I’ll save it for another post!
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAApril 19, 2007 at 10:37 am #28134steve8282
ParticipantI’ve read that Pat Metheny would not Join the Dan for a whole tour because the were not very impovisational, I would suspect that Bruce may feel the same way.
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