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you keep throwin the steely dan reference out there until someone bites… 😉
and the 2 years between HHB and HL were a defining moment in his touring carrerEDIT: he turned it up a notch actually after the release of HHB
as for the big dawg John D’erth, I dug the modereko stuff he did with molo and bobby reed many moons ago. looks like he has got another band goin now http://thompsondearth.com/home
and what about some love for molo!?! he is playing with John Fogerty now and Phil Lesh
David Day wrote:Hot House Ball was released just two years after Harbour Lights. This was definitely another peak for Bruce!What I really like about HHB is that it has a jazz feel, but with a pop twist. Sorta like Steely Dan?
: What do you think? : I’ve read that Bruce says he was influenced by Steely Dan. Thus the connection between Bruce and Steely Dan from my question on another thread.What I also like about HHB is that we see the makings of the Noisemakers! JV, JT, Bobby, and John D’earth on trumpet.
Whatever happened to John D’earth?
: I really liked him as part of the Noisemakers!HHB is one of my favorite records! Besides “Spider Fingers”, is there any other two hand independece on the record?
:David Day
Lake Lanier, GAi am drummer not a pianist but a dabble with the ivories.
druumers have it easy-syncopation with 4 limbs
pianists can have 10 different things going on, not to mention working the pedalsi was a senior in high school when it came out.
I saw it on MTV i saw it on MTV I saw it on MTV
also remember seeing mandolin rain a lot tooof course the singles were what drew me in, my older brother played guitar and I played drums and remeber him learning Every Little Kiss and we used to play it in the attic of my parents house
favorite songs of course every little kiss, way it is and western skyline although i really didn’t discover skyline until years later
lastly, I used The Way it is as a reference point when I taught an 8th grade history class
the only one who isn’t getting a big solo is bruce …. 🙄
no doubt, the musical conversation everybody is having with each other is sweet on that dvdresting place gets stuck in my head when there is a cold rain in snow falling and i am out walking the dogs in it
Re: RE: Peaking
David Day wrote:Victor brings up a good point! What I meant by “peak” was “the peak” not “a peak”.It does seem to me that his live shows have gotten much better both Noisemakers and solo. With years of experience, Bruce knows how to put on a great show! The Noisemakers are very talented. I think the best of his “road bands”. I love to watch the Noisemakers as they “watch Bruce”! It does seem obvious to me that “Bruce likes to entertain the band” (Doug Derryberry said that) His solo shows have come a long way since the old days and he may be peaking as a “solo musician”. I don’t know how he could be any better as a solo musician. Which brings up an idea for another subject! ❗ 💡
It’s obvious he was on a peak with Harbor Lights! It allowed the creative juices to start flowing that flowed over into Hot House Ball and Spirit Trail. It allowed him to experiment with not only two hand independence, but with some jazz which was his major in college.
Hot House Ball brought Bruce to another peak, but what I find interesting is that there was probably no valley between Harbor Lights and Hot House Ball. Harbor Lights was a stepping stone that took Bruce to a peak and Hot House Ball was a “step up” to another peak.
What do you think? Was Hot House Ball a step up to another peak or was it a valley after Harbor Lights?
David Day
Lake Lanier, GAas with many great musicians, there are multiple peaks and valleys
It wasn’t a valley between HL and HHB…it was a plateau between them
and it really depends on the mood i am in. right now I think I would give hot house the edge but see me in a week/month/year and I might say harbor …they are both equally that greatWe bend and break, so fragile, it’s true
I say everything’ll be alright but I don’t have a clue
They say faith is a crutch, well whatever works for you
In a world where you never know
I’ll be there for youSaid I’m going out to find
The pastures of plenty
I believe they’re out there somewhereSometimes you’ve just got to repeat yourself
Just to get your point acrossRe: Bruce, Jack and Christian
thanks for the info on these 2 cats. i will be sure to try and check their stuff out.
and you left Mr big Swing Face himself out as best jazz drummers(with elvin and tony) – Buddy RichDavidR wrote:I’m really, REALLY excited for this, as a jazz buff. I’m curious in a lot of ways about this.Jack DeJohnette is easily among the best living jazz drummers (maybe, now that Elvin and Tony are gone, second only to Paul Motian). I love his work with Keith Jarrett and with Herbie Hancock – incredible taste and precision. And what a feel. Let’s not forget his work on the Bill Evans Live at Montreux record. Phenomenal. Given Bruce’s debt to all of the above (plus Chick Corea, with whom Jack worked in Miles’ band), I think Jack will bring the best out in him.
Christian McBride’s an interesting guy, because his two biggest musical loves are two Mr. Browns: Ray and James. He’s equally adept at hard-swinging straightahead and hard-burning fusion explorations. He’s just not the first bass player I think of when I think of pairing with Jack DeJohnette. I don’t know if they’ve ever recorded together before – if they have, it’s been rare. So I’m interested to hear how they hook up. Christian’s ease with both jazz and more “poppy” things will suit Bruce well.
My only fear is that it’s for Columbia Jazz (right?), whose outings since the departure of Branford Marsalis have been kind of lukewarm. I just hope the trio have the opportunity to really burn and not get censored or toned down by the label.
David
steve8282 wrote:My last one…i’ll see your last one and raise it to “the next one”
and my all time favorite is
08/29/95 Melody Fair Theatre – North Tonawanda, NY
The Way It Is, White Wheeled Limousine, Long Tall Cool One, Spider Fingers, The Show Goes On, Terrapin >, I Know You Rider, Talk of The Town, Valley Road, Harbor Lights, Wharf Rat, Country Doctor, Fields of Gray, Walk In The Sun, Rainbow’s Cadillac, Iko Iko, Western Skyline > Masterpiece, Mystery Train, Look Out Any Window
Encore: Mandolin Rain, Across The River, Cruise Controlthe triple threat that is Harbor Lights> Wharf Rat> Country Doctor is out of this world
the across the river jam brings me to tears…i love when they end the jam and you can hear bruce say “nice!” on the sbd recording
I handed this show out to so many people when I got it back then.
if there is one thing I want to know when I die is “what happened to the tapes I gave to those strangers?”The Way it is – great break through album but to me not a peak (obviously)
Scenes from the southside – still climbing not a pinnacle musically speaking
Night on the town – almost there but so damn close stander and across the river throw this close to the top
Harbor Lights AND Hot House Ball – DING DING…grabbed the brass ring these 2 albums are flawless to me and the band he had was so sweet for these tours
Spirit Trails – I will keep him on the peak here but I some slippage on the horizon
Big Swing Face – it needed to be done, to go in a completely different direction and although I applaud bruce for the effort , it is not a pinnacle
Halcyon Days – he brought it back but not the peak I felt with harbor and hot house
waiting anxiously for whats next
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not even a reply with a thought?
bruce takes the time to add this cryptic message to the credits but no one has a thought on it?and google only brings you to this forum for the word “jaggington”
: What do you think?